The reason I say this, is because people who are religious are more likely to be spiritual than those who are not.

The everyday person is making so many ‘minor’ mistakes in life that have serious consequences. Things like letting their child watch large amounts of TV and go on the Internet without supervision.

People who are spiritual are more likely to turn off the TV as suggested and spend time as a family and become, well, spiritual.

Although there is evidence that Religion causes conflict, without religion humans would find a new conflict. It’s human nature. Football hooligism is one example of many.

Nature is another medium that can be used effectively.

The first thing I would like to say is that you contradicted all of your statements. The only thing I can agree with you is how mankind can give such definitions to describe his understandings.

“I would like to ask if you believe in logic.”
I believe what Steve wrote came from logic. The subject: God, religion, supreme being, higher energy, etc… is metaphysics, unquantifiable (cant be proven by quantitative analysis but only qualitative analysis). Thereforesomething which has no measure is defies logic. Believing in God is through faith and not by logic. I too pose the same question to you Dale; do you believe in logic?

“You negate quantifiable terms energetic and force with the term invisible.”
It is just a definition given by man, also as you explained. The bottom truth is that all the evidences are qualitative and not quantitative. Qualitative evidences are subjective to personal experience. Quantitative evidences are objective hardcore data. No matter how advance our science and society’s knowledge up to this date, the topics in regards to god, religion, etc has been qualitative (subjective – personal experience)

“I am disappointed you have no person preaching to you.”
Would you listen to someone who doesnt know what they are talking about? What if… in your search for truth, you decide to listen to thousands of preachers and yet you continually find contradictions in their teachings?… of course, you would question the contradicting teachings. And to believe only one source and take it truth, isnt that naive of oneself to do so? How can one be definitely sure they are right and the rest are wrong?

“I hope you enforce your own policy you suggest others to do when confronted by a person or group that spouts unsupported ideology in how we should live our lives.”
Religion, god, etc….. isnt that unsupported ideology itself? Supported ideology comes with quantitative evidences (not qualitative) where are physical evidences? yes we have personal experiences: one proclaims he was visted by angels and god spoke to him. But that isnt quantifiable enough… can you support your ideology about god through hard evidence and quantitative results?

“It would seem from your claim you had a divine knowledge and were born with this instinctive nature to know right from wrong.”
It is not divine knowledge or instinct, it’s called ‘common sense’. But common sense can be clouded when one is hypnotized with misguided informations. We all have to arrive to a conclusion of what we believe in and there will be no one who can truly say who is right and who is wrong. Right and Wrong are also words that was given a meaning by man. It is a subjective meaning to everyone.

“I am appalled you do not see the value in prayer.”
Prayer is not limited to kneeling down with your hands together.

“I thought maybe it was in your education, but I have not been able to find such a reference to the degree you hold. Knowledge is something that is learned, it is even said we remember (Plato) from when we were connected with the universe before birth. I only know this; knowledge grows and God is truth.”
Misguided and wrong information can do harm and it can also grow. So how do you know that your information is correct?

“Maybe you should reconsider your definition of spirituality.”
I also would like to pose this to you: maybe you should reconsider your definitions.

My last point: I accept and know that every statement can also be used to contradict what I just said. But my main point is not to change your belief, my goal was to open awareness. I respect if anyone would agree to what I said or totally reject it. I dont mean to offend, but I too believe that I am preaching through god because there are some people who are in need of hearing what I have to say.

God bless.

To continue on, it is conspicuous to me that your unseen force, that is not God, is without restriction to any law. In the basic understanding of energy and force, they are bound by the rules or laws of nature and the universe. Nothing, except God, is without limitations within the known universe. In you statements of how this force you speak of is not bound by laws or dogma, you speak of how it is created and manipulated by man, us. Wouldn’t such a force that is greater than any one person and not bound by laws or dogma be free from control on any such level? If you then claim it has an intellect and chooses to allow such interaction with man to the benefit of right or the good, this is just to say it is bound by laws or dogma, even if said restrictions come from itself.
Your list of seven things is just a compilation of actions to place yourself in a relaxed state resulting in an increased focus and perception. This is not bad in itself and there are benefits to doing such activities, although there are similar activities in the religions you scrutinize and I am appalled you do not see the value in prayer. I hope you enforce your own policy you suggest others to do when confronted by a person or group that spouts unsupported ideology in how we should live our lives – as much as your perception has brought you to the conclusion religion is dictating what should and should not be done, your list does the exact same thing and many of the items mirror concepts from religion.

I am disappointed you have no person preaching to you. Even the greatest of thinkers had a teacher. It would seem from your claim you had a divine knowledge and were born with this instinctive nature to know right from wrong. The rest of mankind was taught these principles as children and it is an ever changing knowledge that continues until the day we die. I do not know everything nor do I expect I will. I would however like to understand how you have come across such knowledge. I thought maybe it was in your education, but I have not been able to find such a reference to the degree you hold. Knowledge is something that is learned, it is even said we remember (Plato) from when we were connected with the universe before birth. I only know this; knowledge grows and God is truth. It then is a goal of mine to think, to act, and to become more enlighten to understand truth of who I am, who God is, and how all things related to this.

Hopefully I did not cause too much of a fuss with my thinking. Maybe you should reconsider your definition of spirituality. Just my two cents.

Hope to see you in Heaven.

For everyone else who’s a bit confused about this issue, let me pose a question:
“Which is more important, being more spiritual or being more religious?”
Being more spiritual means loving and showing act of kindness compared to religion persecuting other religions because their religion is right and the other religions are wrong.

I myself still believe in god (a higher energy), but I don’t believe that I going to hell because I eat certain things that religions told me not to eat. Rather, I focus to give love and kindness. Some would say that isn’t enough and that I need to worship god. Love and kindness is the highest form of worship you can ever give to god.